Monday, August 17, 2009

Deep End Club in Park Ridge

Before Park Ridge, Illinois, was famous as Hillary Clinton's home town, it was famous for the Deep End Club, one of the few venues that catered to teens in Chicago and the northwest suburbs. I've been thinking recently about some old friends from Chicago's Taft High School and the great times we had at the Deep End.

The photo is one I found on Google Images of someone from the Jefferson Ice Company band, which appeared at the Deep End. Between neighborhood bands, some Chicago headliners such as New Colony Six, Ides of March and the American Breed were booked. I believe even bubblegum band The Ohio Express graced the Deep End teen club stage. Yummy, yummy. It was a club where you could participate in a "love in" circle or do the Funky Broadway -- your option.

One landmark night, Deep End owners got on stage and asked the audience which direction they wanted the venue's music to go -- psychedelic or soul? The resounding answer -- soul music! So many of the cover bands hired brought music from Motown that we could dance to. And dance we did!

We managed to get our share of psychedelic music, as well, at the Kinetic Playground (aka Electric Theater) and the Cheetah II (aka Aragon Ballroom). I'd work after school and on Saturday mornings waitressing at Rose Grill at Higgins & Harlem just to spend all my money at the music venues, including Deep End.

Some little known trivia. One of the bouncers at the Deep End was none other than moonlighting Chicago cop Dennis Farina, who later turned Hollywood actor. He talked about wanting to head west even then, and made his dream come true.

If you have memories of the Deep End, let's hear from ya! Here's a music schedule from an era gone past. Note that the music group Chicago (aka C.T.A.) appeared at the Deep End Teen Club for $1.50 admission. Does anyone know which year that was?

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107 comments:

Ann said...

In my hood, we had The Pit in Glenview and The Panther in Deerfield. *Sigh* I remember winning a dance contest doing "the jerk" that was mc'd by Art Roberts and being heartbroken when my "boyfriend" danced with another girl to "Don't Let the Sun Catch You Crying." Thanks for the memory prompt, Cynthia.

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Also remember The Hut in DesPlaines and The Attic in Arlington Heights, where I saw the Shadows of Night and Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels. Everyone wore white at The Attic to show up under the ultraviolet black lights. Former high school coach Vic Giovannini co-owned both Deep End and The Hut.

Ann said...

Sorry to say our parents had to drive us everywhere and public trans was non-existent, so we were never able to go far. How I envied Chicago kids who could ride the el and make-out with their boyfriends on the train, with everyone looking and no one tale-telling.

janesolo said...

I played The Deep End many times in the late sixties and early seventies. We opened for The Amboy Dukes, Styx, Arthur Brown, CTA, and even the Who before anybody even knew who they were. Vic Giovannini and Al Hummerding launched many bands and should really compile a history of the Deep End! It was a magical place!

Christine said...

I remember being thrilled to FINALLY be able to go to The Deep End! There was also a place on Oliphant and Northwest Highway, if I remember correctly. I can't think of the name of it and it's making me crazy. lol Thanks for the partial memory!

jdr51 said...

I believe the club on Oliphant and NW Hwy was the Cave. But I mostly went to the Deep End and the Hut.

The Holiday Ballroom on Milwaukee Ave was also another one for great bands. I also share memories with Cynthia with the Aragon Ballroom and the Kinetic Playground.

A lot of great memories. Thanks everyone!

Cynthia Gallaher said...

I went on my first date at Holiday Ballroom at Lawrence & Milwaukee in Jefferson Park, followed by an ice cream sundae at Lockwood Castle, located at Peterson & Central. A tacky strip mall arose after the ballroom was torn down and Starbucks inhabits the old ice cream parlor.

jdr51 said...

I remember Lockwood Castle too.

Anonymous said...

One of the soul bands that played at the Deep End was Baby Huey and the Babysitters. I knew them personally.

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Bob said...

I played at The Deep End with a band called Shy...we were kids but I'll never forget how cool we felt. I'm still playing in a band called Libido Funk Circus!!!
Bob Pucci

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alfredojahn said...

Hello! That's me in your picture. And you are right, that was the Jefferson Ice Company, local Park Ridge band. I remember seeing lots of good music there; The Flock, The Mauds, Shadows of Knight.

I enjoyed the post!

Best Regards,
Alfredo (Al) Jahn

Susi said...

I worked at the Deep End in the late '60's. It was fun and magical. We saw REO, Chicago, Ides of March, Baby Huey, New Colony Six, Ted Nugent and a host of others. I still am in touch with Vic...he was my husband's boss for many years in teaching. Wally passed away but I got to see him before he was unable to speak.

I went to Maine South but made many friends from Taft, St. Pats (boys and girls schools), Holy Cross, Notre Dame. etc

Anonymous said...

My favorite band at the Deep End, or Papa Joe's, was Weapon's of Peace. Maybe I went one night hoping to see them & bummed that it was Styx or someone else who became famous! Anyone know what happened to them. My school, St. Scholastica, hired them to play at our prom in 1973.

Anonymous said...

WOW what wonderful memories reading what has been written here...

I practically lived at the Deep End..probably because it was within walking distance. I spent time at the Hut and the Green Gorilla too, though..

I feel sorry for kids not having a place like the Deep End to go go..

Vic Giovannini and Mr. Hummerding were wonderful. I made sure to go to Mr. H's wake, to tell his family what a wonderful thing he'd done for so many of us..

Lynne Harris Kalberg

Anonymous said...

The music venue in Arlington Heights was caller the Cellar

orphanbud said...

I remember Lockwood Castle too. All those great clubs we hung out at including the Green Gorilla in Des Plaines. What wonderful memories we have to cherish :)

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Thanks for correcting me that the teen club in Arlington Heights was called The Cellar, not The Attic. Guess my mind got off on the wrong floor. Turns out that "The Cellar" even has it's own Wikipedia site. http://bit.ly/aZ85r1

Jim said...

Ah yes the Cellar. Thanks again for a trip down memory lane.

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Anonymous said...

Yeah, I do remember that place, but in it's later incarnation as 'Papa Joe's". I saw Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes, Ides of March, and as that band broke up later to be two groups: 'Ides'. and 'March'. I vaguely recall Styx playing there too. We had some good times there, met a lot of people, and enjoyed the foosball tables while the music played too. - ken

Anonymous said...

I went to Ridgewood High School in Norridge and we went to the Deep End almost every weekend.

Good memories.

MIKE said...

Wasn't around when The Deep End existed but I live in PR and knowing some town history is how I learned of it.

After closing down it became a Toyota dearler and the building was torn down 5 years ago or more.

Seemed like it was in a funny place being so close to the Touhy, Busse & Meachem intersection and along with it being a samll building, I wonder if the noise from the traffic might of had an impact on it.

The PRFD still had a centralize fire station on the same block on Meachem and the C&NW railroad, as it was known before the RTA/Metra takeover operated Dissels that from what I remember as being much louder than the modern day Metra engines.

Of course with amps tured up high it probably downed all that outside noise out but I thought I'd ask anyhow.

Also are there any actually picture of TDE when it actually existed?

Never seen one before.

jon said...

I too was at 'Papa Joe's" at the corner of Northwest Highway and Touhy if I recall correctly. That's what it was called in the mid-1970s.

I saw several bands there including Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes, and Styx (for just $3.00) the summer of 1974. The band's first hit, Lady, had yet to become popular outside of the fan base.

I remember sitting on the floor to watch shows.

Steve Nelson said...

I played a couple of times at The Hut with my band, Churchill Moor, once with REO. We played the cellar once, and at an outdoor concert at Northeastern with Siegel-Schwall and Bob Seger System. I still have some pics of us at The Hut. Fun times.

Steve Nelson said...

There was also a short-lived venue in Lincoln Park called Elysian Fields. It was a 5-story Masonic Temple converted into a teen club with different entertainment on each floor: a palm reader, movies, house band, etc.

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Steve, If you have photos of your group from the Hut, please share them. I remember Elysian Fields, which I think was around in the early 80s? It was the way to throw a party. Tired of the music? Go watch a film. Film over? Look at some art.

Anonymous said...

Many great memories, thx to all. The internet what a great thing for all to recall days gone by. Two I recall enjoying who hit it big were AURA and Birtha (the all girl band). Thx to my life long friend from Ridgewood (Mr Jaz) the bass man for enlightening me.

Woodchuck

Steve Nelson said...

Cynthia, how do I upload a photo from the Hut?

Steve Nelson said...

How do I send a photo of the Hut?

Steve Nelson said...

I was just looking at a picture of The Mauds at the Deep End in Park Ridge. The wall behind looks just like the one in my pictures of what I've been thinking was The Hut. I'm wondering now if it was the Deep End we were at, not the Hut. Hmm. Memory ain't what it used to be. I do know we were billed with REO Speedwagon, because one of them(can't remember which) asked me if my voice had changed yet(his reaction to my singing of "Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring?"

Ellen said...

I grew up about a mile from The Deep End in Park Ridge. As a teen, all I looked forward to was going there on Friday and Saturday nights. Remember the little business size cards they used to hand out with the schedule of bands each month? That was my bible! Now I'm a snowbird in Ft. Myers FL and just got tickets to see REO Speedwagon in concert here Friday night. Brought back memories of The Deep End because I was sure they played there. Was amazed at all the blogs about the Deep End when I googled it! Also loved "4 days and a night"!
Ellen

Sandy Reeves said...

My sister and friends also went to the Deep End. We went to Maine West in Des Plaines. Mr. Giovannini was the Director of the Drivers Ed Dept @ Maine West. We were there just about every weekend for years. Made so many friends! What a great way it was to spend our teen years! Too bad there are/were not places like that for our kids to hang out and dance.

jdr51 said...

I remember the band schedule cards. Those cards helped me plan on when to get in line. The more popular bands had bigger followers. I wish I had kept a few of them.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I just went to a Styx reunion concert in Atlanta. I found this site trying to remember where it was that I saw them when they were just starting out. It was Papa Joe's! Thanks for the memories. And of the Cellar too. All we had out in McHenry was October One.
Terry

Anonymous said...

*smiles* For some reason I dreamed of Papa Joe's, aka The Deep end last night. I was amazed when a search brought me here. I went to Maine East and lived for Friday and Saturday nights. Ted Nuggent and the Amboy Dukes, Styx, local bands, etc. Sitting on the floor just feet from the stacks, dancing when you could, singing when you couldn't. Thanks for the good memories.

Jerry Wagner said...

Oh how I remember The Deep End and especially The Hut. I went To Maine East and I don't think there was a weekend I was'nt at one of these or The Cellar, The Green Gorilla and the Rolling Stone in I think Glenview. I just happened to stumble upon this site, and I love it!

Lost in the 60's said...

I worked in the 2nd floor concession area at The Hut for Wally and Vic during my senior year at Maine West (1965). My favorite group was The Untamed. There were many debates as to who were better: The Untamed or The Shadows. I was quite friendly with the guys in The Untamed--Al, drummer Bogy (unfortunately deceased several years now), Bob, Randy and Don. Anybody know of their where abouts? Also does anyone remember Nick, the guy with the white hair (albino?) who was a constant presence at The Hut and Maine West athletic events during those years? Sadly I heard about the death of Wally Hommerding years afterward. I've also heard that Wally Jr. is not a nice person.

Lost in the 60's said...

I worked at The Hut in Des Plaines in the 2nd floor concession stand during my senior year at Maine West in 1965 and into the fall of that year. Wally Hommerding was my Accounting teacher and hired me to work that first year of The Hut's existance. I have many, many fond memories of the bands that played there and the people I met. At that time the most popular band there (at The Hut) was The Untamed--Al, Boogy,Bob, Don, and Randy. I was "tight" with them for a few years but lost touch over the years. There were many, many debates as to who was better: The Untamed or The Shadows. I know, unfortunately,that Boogy (Reeves) of The Untamed died in 2006.
I'd sure like to touch base with the remaining guys again. Again,unfortunately, I heard years later that Wally had died of ALCS. I sure wish I'd had a chance to say goodbye. Wally was a very positive influence on me.
Does anyone remember "Nick" (I think that was his name) a white haired (Albino?) who was a regular
at The Hut and the unofficial mascot of Maine West sports? I wonder what ever became of him?

Glenn_ce said...

Does anyone remember a location in Park Ridge called the "Bat Cave" I'm almost 100% positive of the name. One band I knew well that played there we called the "Dirty Shames" So can someone help me identify this place. I t may have been named that for several months, before changing names? Thanks, Glenn "jrd51" mentioned the "Cave" and that led to my inquiry :) Peace...

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Glenn, I remember the name of the place "Bat Cave" and had friends who went there, but I never did. I don't think it lasted too long.

BL Fan said...

Wow... this is so much fun reading all of these memories. My older sisters went to the Deep End all the time. My place was Holiday Ballroom. I followed a band called Eden Rock and had a ton of pictures. What ever happened to them? They were awesome.
Thanks for the memories.

JDR51 said...

Glenn: It may have been called the Bat Cave but if memory serves me well, my friends and I called it the Cave.

I went there once but I was more of a Deep End visitor.

Anonymous said...

For more info on the early chicago pop music scene google electric theater or kenetic playground

jeff said...

I played in a group called the looking glass there,not the brandy song group, we wearer before them. We played with stud and Eden rock and many others. Fun memories.

Candi said...

Hi, anyone interested in a deep end or Papa Joe's reunion somewhere, I went to the clubs between 1970 and 1975 It would be fun. Candi

Anonymous said...

I went to Maine south class of '70 & lived in park ridge. Used to go to the deep end a lot. It was across from the park ridge inn. I remember it was at the end of a block & you had to go downstairs to the stage.

"Oz" said...

OK ROCKERS - I'M ON A MAD SEARCH FOR AN EXTERIOR PIC OF "THE DEEP END." I STILL LIVE IN PARK RIDGE AND HAVE EXHAUSTED MY RESOURCES AND NEED BY 03.15.13 (or later if need be) So far, I've contacted PR Historical Society, City of PR, PR Library's PR Advocate microfilm, Maine South, Gillick Realtors, Pickwick's owner, Bredemann Toyota, Summit Retirement (formerly Park Ridge Inn), local rock station 97.1, Dean Milano - the author of "Chicago Music in the 60s and 70s." Vic Giovannini (former Deep End owner), and others . . . below is my "bio" :-)

I am a Maine South Class of 71 grad (female) and frequented The Deep End at every opportunity between 1967 and 1971. My best friend met her husband there and in 2013 will be wed 40 years! Recall the lines of anxious "youngsters" lined up to enter, the punch cards, evenings when I would sit on that filthy floor to listen to my faves, everyone dancing to "My Girl," the "juice bar" upstairs and the smoking of cigarettes ("funny" and not so funny) in the back. At the end of each night, my girlfriends and I would walk to The Pickwick Restaurant, call our parents at the pay phone and those parents would not be too happy about picking us up. Hey - at least we were safe! Ahhh, those fond memories!

Please someone tell me that you captured a photo of that fun club!

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Hey Oz, Great comments about Deep End back in the day. I'll try to get more attention to the blog and your comment through a few postings on Twitter and Facebook. BTW, on Facebook there is a great page called "Northwest Side of Chicago" which posts scores of historical photos. Ask if they have the one you're looking for of Deep End.

FrankB said...

This is hilarious. I was in the MASS then Stardriver then Trillion then Wild Blue and now back to Trillion. The days of Deep End, The Bat Cave, Beginnings, the Hut, Rush Up Rush Over, on and on. Those were the best clubs to test the musical waters. Trillion is still alive and recording believe it or not and having a good time at it. 3 tunes are posted at www.trillion-music.us with 2 more on the way. They keep getting better.

Anonymous said...

Hi!

"I WAS THERE" - Yeah, glory days for sure! The Deep End was my favorite. The Hut was great too. Was at the Cellar in Arlington Heights (not the Attic :) when I think it was Cream was playing! Sheesh did we ever think?! BTW...this is Christy from Maine West, class of '71. Sure were great music days back then and for TEENS, no less! I still haunt the music venues in the area and love to do sketches of musicians on the spot. Still doing art after all these years! Long live MUSIC & ART!
Hail to the Blue Gold and White! peace!

Anonymous said...

Can anyone remember the dances from the deep end and some of the good dancers?

Anonymous said...

Read the entire Blog and remember all of it and then some. The Deep End was a great place, spent many a weekend nights there and in the Summer they were open on Wednesday nites or was it Tuesdays? Remember the band Four Days and a Night and Rufus and Shaka Khan, The Tenth Dimension and the Volvos. A reunion would be a great idea.There was one about 27yrs ago at Vic G's place Stagger Lees in Mount Prospect. Flashlight Nick (albino) is alive and well, saw him working at the Jewel store at Busse and Greenwood in ParK Ridge not long ago. Those were great times!!!

Anonymous said...

Is this the Candi from the DE who married Jeff and lived in Elmwood Park?

Tom said...

I seem to remember that before it was the Deep End , Bird's Eye Foods was in that spot. I think.

tom james said...

"The Pit" was mentioned which was in the club house at the Glenview GOlf COurse and on one particular groovy night they got the "Seeds"to play at the height of their "Pushing too hard"fame.The place was packed and after "the Seeds " played their 2 songs that the crowd knew, then it became strange. Sky Saxon and crew were certainly "californified" hippy types and we were highschool kids with dress codes.Sky Saxon was wild..i don't remember it being much of a stage,so they were kind of right in the crowd..I dug them but in ensuing years a few friends who were there that night,expressed their displeasure with the songs since they really didn't know any outside of about 2 of them.Plus they were about as close to the long-hair hippy freak bands that anyone had gotten too. Chicago treen bands for the most part dressed up and had modest Beatle haircuts as i remember,especially at the time we saw the Seeds...Flash forward a year or two and most of us looked like a variation of The Seeds in one fashion or another. ALl of this for a couple of bucks.The teenclubs of chicago suburbs were like a great legendary lost civilization built totally on memories. Hard to believe it existed and in such a narrow sliver of time.

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Some of the dances I remember the crowd at the Deep End doing were the "Funky Broadway" and something called the "Dooper Dance." In the Funky Broadway, you swept both arms in unison up and down one side and then the other, while you gyrated your spine and raised one knee, then the other. (You'd have to see it) The "Dooper Dance" was pure northwest side, kind of like a combo of the "Jerk" and "Hand-Jive" focusing on the center of your body. Knees bent quite a bit. Any other dances? By the way, a "dooper" meant "dear old Oak Parker" meaning a collegiate or Ivy League type. At Taft High School, you were often either a "dooper" or a "greaser" -- and sometimes, eventually, a hippy.

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Tom, Wow. I didn't know what the Deep End location was before it became a teen club. Bird's Eye Foods? Post the Deep End days, the place eventually became a Bredemann Toyota dealer, was torn down, and is now a condo.

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Googled Deep End Club and found a Chicago Tribune article from some years back on the 1960s teen clubs in Chicago & burbs, including Chicago's Pink Fink, Westmont's Blue Village, St. Charles' Jaguar, Algonquin's New Place, Park Ridge's Deep End, Des Plaines' Green Gorilla, Glenview's Pit, Winnetka's Rolling Stone, Elgin's Blue Moon Ballroom and Arlington Heights' legendary Cellar. Groups such as Three Dog Night; The Lovin' Spoonful; Blood, Sweat and Tears; Alice Cooper; The Steve Miller Band; Cream; Buffalo Springfield; The Yardbirds; and even The Who actually played these venues before they became legends. See article: http://bit.ly/12VqCQG

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Saddened that Dennis Farina, Chicago actor & veteran cop, died today, July 22, 2013, http://trib.in/15ZPSug He used to moonlight as a security bouncer at both the Deep End Club and Immaculate Conception Church dances when I was a teenager. A great guy!

Anonymous said...

Eden Rock broke up like most good bands. I wish they stuck together. I'm still friends with Jack, their keyboard player,we went to grade school together. Look up a band called Candy

Buck Mulligan said...

I worked in a band when I was seventeen or so that opened for Rufus, The Flock, and Styx at the Deep End. However, what I most remember about that place is that I saw Howling Wolf and Muddy Waters there.

Bon Scott said...

That would be fun

Bon Scott said...

That would be fun. I was taft 1970 and I danced the nights away at the deep end.

Bobby Diamond said...

As a member of Four/For Days & A Night and The Soul Machine, it was always fun to play at The Deep End, The Hut, Cellar, Green Gorilla plus all the parish & school gatherings. It was an amazing era that will never be duplicated.

Jeff Duntemann said...

Wonderful stuff; thanks! The Bat Cave club was (I'm pretty sure) at the corner of Oliphant and Olmsted in Edison Park, on the west side of Oliphant. This was right across Olmsted from the Edison Park train station, now Metra. My parents considered the Bat Cave a "bad influence" and I was never allowed to go there, nor to The Deep End, even though many of my friends did. I also have a vague memory of another club in Edison Park in that timeframe (1966-1968) but don't recall the name. I belonged to the IC Teen Club and remember officer Dennis Farina well.

Anonymous said...

Bobby Diamond - I'm good friends with Quent Lang from the Soul Machine and Jumbo - never got to see them tho. Didn't meet Quent til he played in the Mauds with Jimy Rogers a few years ago.

Anonymous said...

Yes, 4 Days and a Night, was my cousin Tommy Epplito's band. (sometimes went as Tommy Lee)

He died in 1972 when I was 3, and I would love to make a tribute website for him and his band as they were very very popular. They opened for Grand Funk and Ike and Tina Turner at the Aragon in 1969 and 1970 before the Aragon stopped having bands due to drug issues.

If anyone else has pictures, recordings or anything about four days and a night, please let me know.

To my knowledge, their prior name was "Dirty Shames" and Ron Kaplan, later to join Cryan Shames was their drummer.

Ron Starr
ronald.starr@hotmail.com

Maureen said...

I was too young to go to the Deep End in Park Ridge, but I can vividly remember what the outside looked like. What did the inside look like?? It was always so mysterious to me. Thanks for anyone who can describe it.

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Maureen, To answer your question, the Deep End was fairly dark inside and basically had three levels, the dance floor/band dias area, then up some steps to the concessions and juke box, then up another set of stairs to kind of a crow's nest that was more well lit. They finally closed off the crow's nest when they thought people went up there to drink covert booze and smoke weed. Everything in the place was constructed in painted wood and had a casual, rustic rec room quality. Off the dance floor was an outdoor three-season patio with a large, tall fence around it. It wasn't fancy, but it was our everywhere for awhile.

ken@kenwelter.com said...

I was lead guitar player in a band that played at The Hut many times. We also played at the Deep End, The Pit and the Green Gorilla a few times and Catholic Church sock hops almost every Sunday night back in those days. We were the Sons Of Tyme. My name is Ken Welter. Our bass player was Greg Bartolone. Our keyboard player who played a Vox Continental organ, was Craig Jamriska. Our drummer was Pat Dalessandro and our lead singer was Gerry Cwienkala. Greg, Pat and I went to Maine East. Craig went to Maine South and Gerry went to Notre Dame. Our claim to fame was when we beat the Amboy Dukes in a battle of the bands at The Hut. (Pre Ted Nugent, unfortunately!)!! Great memories! Ken Welter

Anonymous said...

I went to Maine South, Played at the Hut and several other Places.
Our Band was Called "The Lonely Souls"-Another place I haven't seen mentioned, but many big-name Bands played there is "The New Place" in Algonquin. The Cellar was Great,for sure.

Tommy K

Anonymous said...

I snuck into the Deep End one Friday night. I don't know if my memory is correct, but I think there was a new band called Sanata playing with this fabulous guitar player. To tell you the truth, I didn't like that "Spanish" style of music so much at the time. I ws only 16 of 17 at the time. Can anyone verify this. Santana at the Deep End?

Cynthia Gallaher said...

If the Who and other "new" 60s bands at the time appeared at the Deep End, I can believe Santana did as well. I don't remember them being there myself, but I'm sure another reader can chime in. I did see Carlos Santana give an impromptu guest performance at a tiny dance club in Berkeley, California back in 1971, along with Tower of Power. I wrote a separate blog post on 1/20/15 that mentions it "Experiencing Sugar Man, Then Losing Track of the Song for Decades."

Margaret LaCerra said...

What was the name of the group with Tom Guetzlaff as lead singer and Bob Altergott tht played at the Deep End often? All from Taft. Thanks, Margie

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Margie -- Wow, Bob Altergott. I actually dated him a couple of times when I was 16. Great sax player. I know he was in a band called The Darts, which gave such a great cover to the Standells' "Dirty Water," better than the original in my estimation due to Altergott's saxophone. He also appeared in Pezband, but not sure if he was a regular member.

Theresa Mustafoff said...

Don from Gearhead wants to know. When the band back together for the World Tour?

Anonymous said...

There was nothing like the 60's. I remember The Deep End in Park ridge, The Green Gorilla in Arlington Heights,The New Place ( in a big barn in Algonquin; parking was in a grass field ), The Blue Village in Westmont, The Spot or thirsty Whale on River Road North of Irving Park, The Hut in des Plaines,and of course The Celler ( I think in Arlington Heights. For $1.50 os $2.00 where can you get all live bands and the girls were all friendly and we danced for hours. I remember the slow dances when both myself and the girl I was dancing with were soaking wet ( but The Jade East held up )
These were the best years to grow up as a teenager !!!!!!!!!!!!1

MIKE said...

On a Live 365 station I learned about a group called The Knaves and a song called "The Girl I Threw Away," which was a B-side to another song.

One of the members was a city resident and the others lived in Niles, Morton Grove and Skokie so considering that I wonder if they played at The Deep End?


Cynthia Gallaher said...

Mike, I personally don't remember the group or the song, but one of the other readers of this blog post might. If someone does, please comment!

MIKE said...

This may not have anything to do with the group directly but according to a post in this upload Gene Lubin one of the band members died a month ago.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3ttzAYMEsw

Interestingly there's a few other uploads of this son and 2 of them have the guy in the control booth saying take 4 just before the song.

Steve Jaworski said...

Thanks for posting the schedule! I was a member of the Luv Complex that played there on May 31, 1967 with Baby Huey. We played a few times, once with the New Colony Six.

Steve Jaworski said...

I remember seeing the Knaves at the Cellar a few times. They have have few songs on the Dunwich CDs that are still available on Amazon.

Unknown said...

There were actually two cellars in arlington heights. First in basement of old Bell Telephone building on Northwest Hwy.Second down on Northwest Hwy. at Euclid. Bands included Shadows of Knight,Cream,Saturdays Children,The Maudes,Amboy Dukes,Buddy Miles,Blue Cheer,The Yardbirds and The who.

Richard Walden said...

Does anyone remember Paul Bogush and The Paul Bogush Blues Band? They played the Deep End frequently.

Glenn_ce said...

Cynthia Gallaher Thanks for recalling the Bat Cave. I guess you're right and it didn't last that long. Plus the other choices were Great.

Glenn_ce said...

Before I forget? Does anyone remember the "Buckinghams" playing at any of these N.W., Suburban Venues?

stan said...

Does anyone remember the bat cave in edison park-sam the sham played there! I was in a band in 69, 70 ish & we were to open at the deep end for styx, who did not show! We sucked & it was a brutal experience. The band was quo vadis, Stan Antkowiak from palatine ave at harlem!

Cynthia Gallaher said...

Stan, Thank you for commenting! I never had the pleasure to visit the Bat Cave but heard quite a bit about it. Where exactly was it located in Edison Park? I remember the name of the band Quo Vadis and may have seen them at another venue. One of my friends saw Sam the Sham & the Pharaohs perform at the Harlem & Foster Shopping Center back in the same era, and loved the show. I owned one of their 45s.

MIKE said...

Remember the all girl group "The Daughters Of Eve?"

Anonymous said...

Santana never played at the Deep End or the Chicago Band circuit of the 60's and 70's. However their was a Rock Latin Band with a Santana like rhythm sound that went by the name of, "KRACKER," they played the Deep End on Fridays or Saturdays and would often play the Holiday Ballroom (a converted movie theater) on Sunday night which was another teenage dance spot, which hasn't been mentioned...many of the same bands that played at the Deep End played the Holiday Ballroom which was at Milwaukee and Higgins

Anonymous said...

Santana never played the teen circuit in the northwest suburbs, however there was a band called "KRACKER" who did play the Holiday Ballroom fequently on Sunday nights. They had the same Latin sound as Santana.

Anonymous said...

I think that you meant the Cellar in Arlington Hts. During it life it had 2 locations: the first was north of the rail tracks near downtown, and the 2nd near NW Hyway and Euclid.

Norm Podrazik said...

I was in a band called "The Henchmen". We ate the Deep End and The Hut often from '66 to '68. We all went to Maine South. I was in class of '68. The Band showed promise but broke up due to the war in Nam. It was either go to college or get drafted. Playing those places was a lot of fun. Some of my friends are amazed at the bands I saw during that time.



Lynne Harris Ziti Kalberg said...

Loved your group !

Lynne Harris Ziti Kalberg said...

Tom from Maine Easy class of '69 ?

Lynne Harris Zito Kalberg said...

I still have my Deep End ID! Maine Easy class of 1969.

Anonymous said...

My husband worked at Bredemans Toyota before they sold and tore it down. He said an upstair wall had autographs from everyone that played there. Too bad he didn't get a pic or even a piece of the wall. I went there many times with my girlfriends. Great memories.

Anonymous said...

Devon & Central.....of course, it's a Starbucks now:( remember that giant punch bowl full of ice cream maybe 30 Scoops if you ate the whole thing in an hour it was free?

Jacqueline Totsch said...

The Batcave was in Edison Park

Tom Lavin said...

I played the Deep End many times circa 1967 as bass player with the Nightshades. Bob Zemke lead guitar (deceased), Larry Lacoste rhythm guitar, Kenny Lacoste drums. We also played a joint in Roselle often called the Dark Spot, the Pit in Glenview and many others.

Further to the post above re: the Knaves - I was friends with Howard Berkman who played guitar in the group. I believe Stu Einstein was the bass player. Howard (deceased) wrote one of their better known songs "Leave Me Alone (Why Don't You Go Choke Yourself).

I'm trying to recall the name of the club on the east side of Sheridan Road at Devon on the second floor near the Loyola U campus. Any ideas?

Anonymous said...

We were so lucky! Besides dancing at the Deep End on Fridays or Saturdays, then on Sundays we would also hear live bands at local church dances on Sundays like I.C. or St. Paul's, My favorite band was Four Days and a Night. I wish I had paid more attention to the bands instead of the teenage boys!

marilynn said...

Hello I'm helping a friend look for her father. A guy named Wally who her mom met at the Electric Theater in Chicago in 1970 April or May. Her mom's last name is Begovich and she was one of four girls that people called the banana splits. This I know is a strange question but anything you can offer in the way of remembering a guy named Wally he had glasses would make his daughter's dream come true. She's a music lover too. God Bless Merry Christmas marilynndawn@gmail.com

Cynthia Gallaher said...

To answer Tom Lavin's question, the club on the second floor on Sheridan Road north of Devon was called Baby Huey's. Not to be confused with the band "Baby Huey and the Babysitters." And if I'm not mistaken, previous to the liquor and entertainment bar Baby Huey's, the locale was a folk music coffee house called It's Here. You sat on pillows, drank coffee and mellowed out with acoustic folk sets.